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				Track car brainstorming
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:25 pm
				by ritalin_boy
				I've come to realise how much I'd missed having a track going car. I sold my DC5 integra last year for a song and I'm regretting not keeping it. 
 
So I want to build a vw based car to fulfil the same duties as the honda minus rego and the honda bit. 
I'm feeling very inspired by the Frankfurt Flyer on the samba, but I don't think a life long project is what I'm looking for or if I've got the skills to pull this off well enough.
 
Any you guys got Suggestions??
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:50 pm
				by LeeM
				A mental turbo buggy wirh slicks
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:52 pm
				by ritalin_boy
				Formula vee turbo ? Or manx?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:54 pm
				by LeeM
				Manx. Just to be different
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:59 pm
				by ritalin_boy
				No roof and very little body rigidity may make that a challenge. 
I agree it would look cool as! 
The drag buggy was horrible at turning corners. 
 
.....with the exception of Ryan At the helm, it seems to steer towards the wall a lot!
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:57 pm
				by Phat Bug
				Tubo Fvee would be awesome!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:11 pm
				by LeeM
				Thats the challenge mate, MAKE it handle!  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:18 pm
				by hertz
				What class could you run a turbo Vee in
One of these engines in a VEE would rock!
 
 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:46 pm
				by ritalin_boy
				I love those Autocraft powered sprint cars. 
I can see good merit in placing the engine between the driver and after the front axle. 
In a perfect world it would be great to build a front engined vee with the driver toward the rear like a clubman 7..ish. 
Might draw something up in cad when I get a chance.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:48 pm
				by hertz
				ritalin_boy wrote:I love those Autocraft powered speedcars. 
I can see good merit in placing the engine between the driver and after the front axle. 
In a perfect world it would be great to build a front engined vee with the driver toward the rear like a clubman 7..ish. 
Might draw something up in cad when I get a chance.
 
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:22 am
				by Tonz Magonz
				Why not use a sprint car ...?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:40 am
				by hertz
				Generally they are a struggle tonz.
Engine is hard bolted to an engine plate
they have no clutch, use a cup and ball torque tube that is very short
have no gears other than a direct in/out built into the quick change diff.
Not a lot of room to add gearbox/clutch and a driveshaft big enough to allow suspension travel
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:24 pm
				by 4pots
				start with a vw/hilux/similar floor pan or from scratch?
how serious are you thinking?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:40 pm
				by hertz
				is a VW similar to a Hilux floor pan?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:57 pm
				by 4pots
				gahhhh.....
many cars are built on vw/hilux/tonner frames, thought this would be common knowledge. but that just aint common anymore.
Will you use a floorpan that is already in existence or make one from scratch?
Which way are you heading?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:11 pm
				by ritalin_boy
				I'm keen as mustard to build this gents...
Amazing that the sprint car runs a torque tube. I drove a mates AMC rambler left hook with a t-tube. Weird concept. 
Im looking at starting with a vee or a clubman frame. My friend up the road here has a nice swb lotus 7. It's totally feasible to slot an aircooled motor up front.
Hmmm
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:31 pm
				by 4pots
				awesome!
interesting!
looking forward to the inspiration
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:59 pm
				by hertz
				Hilborn mechanical injection  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:57 am
				by ritalin_boy
				This is the closest thing I've found to what id like to build.
It's looks very aerial atom, but powered by a type 4 motor and 901 gearbox.
http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f162/fs ... ar-159225/ 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:10 am
				by Tonz Magonz
				A good friend of mine has a Kattaram (spelling?) and loves it..
Similar to the Lotus..